Soul Spy?

[langemand]

The latest build (v0.1.3-2999) fix an issue with gps positioning not being initiated, adds gps speed and car speedometer to the energy and power page, and modifies the OBD and CAN initialization sequence a bit.

As usually, the APK link is here: https://github.com/langemand/SoulEVSpy/blob/master/README.md

 

[ZuinigeRijder]

I gave it a try. It was working without a problem for me. Well done.

 

[Oinq]

Indeed it is.
I tried and forgot to give feedback.

 

[JejuSoul]

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The new version is working for me too. Thanks.

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Also it seems some older 2015 Soul EVs in Quebec are getting the newer 30kWh battery pack when their battery is replaced under warranty.
Hence the code needs to check for the presence of cell 97 to determine the size of the battery.

With Torque I had assumed that pre-MY2018 all cars would have 96 cells and for MY2018 and MY2019 all cars would have 100 cells
This may no longer be the case.

 

[warren55]

I just tried out the newest version, and everything works great, but I noticed something odd with my battery cell map. I have a 2016 which I bought used recently, and I am sure the battery pack has not been replaced with less than 10,000 miles on it, but it looks like I have 100 battery cells. Am I reading this wrong?
Hopefully this link will work: https://photos.app.goo.gl/84pgQRRHLtHxMuwL7
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xzI6r-i47v-pQfyd0k2-ZVwTYrUgLIjr

 

[JejuSoul]

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Warren - yes, I can see your screenshot - and it does show values for 100 cells.
Can you post again with the Min and Max cell voltages and the Battery cell voltage.
It should be easy to see which you actually have by dividing the Battery cell voltage by either 100 or 96.

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My car looks like this (96 cells) . (This is an old version of soulspy - the layout issue on this page has been fixed for me.)



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One of the 3 cars in Quebec that claimed to have a bigger 30kWh battery pack is now known not to.
When tested with Torque using the 30kWh codes we see there is no cell 97. see - Facebook: KiaSoulEVQuebec: March 25 at 8:19 PM

 

[warren55]

I will do that later today. Thanks for the reply!

 

[warren55]

I took some more screenshots today, and I'm not sure what's going on but it appears I only have 96 cells today! I'm not sure what could have changed between yesterday and today?
Anyway, here's some hopefully pertinent information.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AC7Zav8XeZbEiCAs5iSfz7hp1tJdBsPz
https://drive.google.com/open?id=10mmemN5f75qQCfzURFh-Y42TL23DDxyc
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hCnIXHwdsQHxdxpWXl24hegHH4WA_ejp
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AlSRy21xaGJ--ixKJhmSFr-khJlQsEab

 

[JejuSoul]

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Thanks for the latest data.
Obviously your car really does only have 96 cells. It is a 27kWh as are all 2016's.
We now need to work out why there was a glitch.
Why did those 4 non-existent cells show convincing looking cell voltages on the first test?

 

[warren55]

Agreed. I'll do more testing in the coming days.

 

[warren55]

Today I still have 96 cells! :shock:

 

[JejuSoul]

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I think the way State of Charge SOC is shown on the app is confusing.
SOC (display) is the one everyone is used to. It is the one shown on the car.
This one is easy to understand. I think this should be the only one shown.

The SOC (BMS) which you label 'actual', is not well understood.
Many assume that it measures the SOC of the total pack, but it doesn't.
My car has lost the 10% buffer at the top of the pack.
The usable capacity is the same, the total capacity has shrunk, but when fully charged the ratio of SOC (BMS) / SOC (display) is the same as when the car was new.

SOC (prec) is probably not an SOC reading but something related to it.
I think this reading should go onto an extra page with debug values.
Values that need to be tested to find out what they are.

 

[langemand]

Please consider everything displayed by the SoulEVSpy app "debug values". Look at the values displayed in the car display, if those are the values you want to see .

 

[langemand]

I am certainly not a programmer, but is there any chance we'll see future upgrades that would include things like a diagnostic screen where we could see fault codes, or turn the warning chimes off and on, like the Leaf Spy app? If this will work with the new Kia and Hyundai EV's coming out, I'm sure it would be hugely popular and I for one would not have a problem paying for it!

I am focusing my efforts on the stuff that is not easy to accomplish in other ways. The fault codes you can read with one of the lite versions of Torque, so that is not my highest priority.

If someone can tell me how (using CAN bus communication) to accomplish things like turning off chimes, setting climate schedule, etc, I will prioritize coding it. I cannot do it without knowing how.

 

[langemand]

I have version 0.1.3-2912, and set it all to US measurements, but all the screens still show KM, or degrees C.
This is for the range screen, BMs screen, etc.

This has been fixed in the latest build (version 0.1.6-3147), download link here: https://github.com/langemand/SoulEVSpy/blob/master/README.md

great info on tire pressure...but which sensor is which wheel?

I don't think the car knows, at least I don't know how to obtain that information from the car. If you know, tell me, and I will code it.

 

[langemand]

The download link for the latest released APK build of the SoulEVSpy, v. 0.1.6-3147, is available here: https://github.com/langemand/SoulEVSpy/blob/master/README.md

The selected units for temperature, distance and energy consumption now works in the app; you can see data displayed in US units (csv-file data are still metric units).

I have added a main battery current indicator at the bottom of the battery cells page, indicating the level of current going in to the battery (blue) or out of the battery (red), -200 to 200 Ampere.

 

[langemand]

I just tried out the newest version, and everything works great, but I noticed something odd with my battery cell map. I have a 2016 which I bought used recently, and I am sure the battery pack has not been replaced with less than 10,000 miles on it, but it looks like I have 100 battery cells. Am I reading this wrong?
Hopefully this link will work: https://photos.app.goo.gl/84pgQRRHLtHxMuwL7
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xzI6r-i47v-pQfyd0k2-ZVwTYrUgLIjr

You read it correctly.
Which version of the SoulEVSpy app were you using?
What did you do prior to connecting to bluetooth - did you replay a csv file from another car at any time before this happened?

 

[langemand]

The download link for the latest released APK build of the SoulEVSpy, v. 0.1.6-3147, is available here: https://github.com/langemand/SoulEVSpy/blob/master/README.md

 

[warren55]

I just tried out the newest version, and everything works great, but I noticed something odd with my battery cell map. I have a 2016 which I bought used recently, and I am sure the battery pack has not been replaced with less than 10,000 miles on it, but it looks like I have 100 battery cells. Am I reading this wrong?
Hopefully this link will work: https://photos.app.goo.gl/84pgQRRHLtHxMuwL7
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xzI6r-i47v-pQfyd0k2-ZVwTYrUgLIjr

You read it correctly.
Which version of the SoulEVSpy app were you using?
What did you do prior to connecting to bluetooth - did you replay a csv file from another car at any time before this happened?

I was using the current version at the time (v0.1.3-2999) and it was the first time I used it on my new phone, so I had not replayed any csv files that I'm aware of.
The issue hasn't repeated itself since then. Yesterday I went for a long freeway drive and it reports 96 cells. I was a little concerned that during that drive my SOH seemed to drop from 107% to 103.7%. That seemed a little drastic to me.

 

[langemand]

I was using the current version at the time (v0.1.3-2999) and it was the first time I used it on my new phone, so I had not replayed any csv files that I'm aware of.
The issue hasn't repeated itself since then.

If possible, could you please email me the soulspy.log2019XXXXXXXX.txt file from the time of the error (to [email protected])?
I would like to find and fix the root cause if possible, I dislike that the app can display erroneous data.

Yesterday I went for a long freeway drive and it reports 96 cells. I was a little concerned that during that drive my SOH seemed to drop from 107% to 103.7%. That seemed a little drastic to me.

In my experience, the BMS only adjusts the SOH value when the car has been charged to near full capacity, and is driven to near empty ( < 20% SOC). Depending on how long ago this last happened, and what the battery experienced in the meantime (high temperature, high power driving, or extensive time at high SOC), the adjustment may be large or small.

I bought my Soul EV from a dealer where it had been a demo car, probably standing idle charged to 100% SOC the majority of the time for 10 months, until I got it. It is now 4 years and 68000 km since first registration, and the SOH has been stable at 96,9% (max deterioration=13,9%) since july last year (odo 53000). In may the max deterioration was 10.0%. I believe the drop came due to multiple top speed driving stints with fast-charging in rapid sequence, on the German Autobahn during the summer heat.